The average feminist

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We know there's a strong tendency for people to be influenced by authority figures and by the need to fit in, and this can easy get them to justify in their own mind immoral behavior.... and a lot of people don't need much of an excuse....</div> <bR> <div> But perhaps when I say "people" I should really say "men". We understand men have a dark side but still tend to think of women as pure and innocent. One of the objections frequently raised to the hypothesis that feminism is a hate movement is that <I><B>surely</b></I> normal average feminists are nice grrls? <I><B>Surely</b></I> feminists who are ordinary women couldn't be supporting the lies and the sexism? There must be some "mistake". Perhaps feminism has been "<B>stolen</b>" from these righteous and innocent women by a tiny minority of "extremists".</div> <bR> <div> <I>My experience....</I></div> <div> Well, in my experience, yes, the average feminist fits very well with the hypothesis that feminism is hate. If you are experiencing anything different then its likely that you need to dig beneath the paper thin exterior that feminists present to the world. Don't just ask if they support equality. They all <B>say</b> they do. Ask them on a specific topic. Immediately you'll start getting a different kind of reply. My favorite topic to prove this point at the moment, is the latest addition to the <A HREF="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/vawo/laws/vawa/vawa.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/vawo/laws/vawa/"><U><B>Violence Against Women Act</b></U></A>. This is a good topic to gauge feminists on because (1) the act is explicitly discriminatory against men. (2) its very easy to confirm this, and (3) almost all feminists will support VAWA but lie about this fact (if they express an opinion).</div> <bR> <div> Its amazing how easily this works!</div> <bR> <div> <I>If there's a feminist handbook, page 1 must tell them to lie about VAWA</I></div> <div> I swear its a compulsion for feminists to lie about VAWA. There seems no other reason why, lemming-like, they all rush to repeat the same obvious lie again and again and again! No, not absolutely every feminist will, lie, but if they say anything at all, I'd say a good 80% will lie. And because its so easy to check the facts these lies often become increasingly forceful, desperate even, to convince people that the feminist is totally sure of what they say. Well let's have some real on-line examples....</div> <bR> <div> From About.Com's Women's Issues board.</div> <div> "<A HREF="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/messages?msg=696.2" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/"><U><I>Oh, but you know what? Despite the gendered name of the law, the actual law IS gender neutral</I></U></A><A HREF="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/messages?msg=696.2" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/"><U>.</U></A>"</div> <bR> <div> "<A HREF="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/messages?msg=696.58" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/"><U><I>May I say then, that this is an important reason for you to read the whole bill? To merely read the title and a couple of excerpts is not really going to tell you anything, and you may have a distorted view of what it really says.</I></U></A>"</div> <bR> <div> "<A HREF="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/messages?msg=696.15" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/"><U><I>I also disagree that VAWA projects a bigoted stereotype. Read the act. It doesn't. If you're referring to the name, I can meet you halfway and agree that perhaps it's not inclusive enough, or accurate enough to describe what the act does.</I></U></A>" </div> <bR> <div> In reply to a quote from the text of the act on the government site for VAWA:</div> <div> "<A HREF="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/messages?msg=696.18" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/"><U><I>The reason is because this is for the Violence Against Women Office, which specializes in crimes against women. How many times do I have to tell you this? </I></U></A></div> <div> <A HREF="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/messages?msg=696.18" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://forums.about.com/ab-womensissues/"><U><I>This section of distribution is specific for that office</I></U></A>"</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div>     <p align="center"> <A HREF="http://rd1.hitbox.com/rd?acct=WQ5011298NZC45EN0&p=s"> <IMG SRC="http://hg1.hitbox.com/HG?hc=wf153&l=y&hb=WQ5011298NZC45EN0&cd=1&n=Average Feminist" height=62 width=88 ALT="Click Here!" border=0> </A> </p>    </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> </td> </tr></table></body>