Censorship

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This was in reply to comments on the <A HREF="http://www.ifeminists.com/interaction/forum/feminism0004/" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.ifeminists.com/interaction/fo"><U><I>iFeminism</I></U></A> board.</div> <bR> <div> ::Usually feminist boards censor </div> <div> ::this type of discussion </div> <div> : </div> <div> : -They do not on this board. </div> <bR> <div> I have the distinction of being the very first person banned and censored from several feminist boards who seemed to pride themselves on their commitment to freedom of speech and so on *before* my arrival. In such cases the rules of the forum are usually changed after the fact to prove the administrator was within the rules for banning me. </div> <bR> <div> My general experience with feminism on this issue is one of incredible hypocrisy. </div> <bR> <div> The most recent example was the Ms magazine board. Shortly after my arrival I made my usual spiel about how feminist board always censor conflicting opinions. Again on cue the administrator and regulars assured me no one had ever been banned. Within two weeks (and that's actually pretty good for a feminist board) the board had new rules about posting. Several of my posts were censored. Many threads were started to specifically ask for me to be removed by the freedom loving feminists. </div> <div> I repeatedly asked very specific questions about the wonderfully vague new rules for posting. I asked if specific words would be counted as illegal, leading to a ban. The administrator refused to answer any of my questions three times -- replying each time but refusing to specify one way or the other. </div> <bR> <div> I went on holiday (I'd mentioned I would be away for 5 days) and came back to find I had been banned on the last day before my return. Reason specified was the use of the words I had specifically asked about. I was told these words were obviously offensive. Words were "liar" and "bigot". </div> <bR> <div> The administrator did not mention my being banned on the board despite twice promising to me that she would mention if she banned me (in response to my mentioning that typically the feminist administrator will seek to ban someone and pretend they left of their own accord). Because of the 5 days I was away before I knew I was banned this tactic worked especially well in this situation and there was little protest about the censorship by others. </div> <bR> <div> This sort of behavior is typical and is not limited to "gender" feminists such as you'd expect from the likes of Ms. I was also the first person banned from "<A HREF="http://members.boardhost.com/feministutopia/" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://members.boardhost.com/feministuto"><U><I>Feminist Utopia</I></U></A>" </div> <bR> <div> This is what you would probably call an equity or individualist feminist board. In this case again the rules were changed specifically to ban me (just after the ban in this case) and discussion of the ban was censored on the board. </div> <bR> <div> In summary, yes feminists will put up with a certain level of disagreement so long as it is getting nowhere past their usual defenses of dismissal insult and lies, but a fundamental criticism is invariably banned. Where banning is not an option the feminist simply run away [see alt.feminism for example]</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div>     <p align="center"> <A HREF="http://rd1.hitbox.com/rd?acct=WQ5011298NZC45EN0&p=s"> <IMG SRC="http://hg1.hitbox.com/HG?hc=wf153&l=y&hb=WQ5011298NZC45EN0&cd=1&n=Censorship" height=62 width=88 ALT="Click Here!" border=0> </A> </p>    </div> <bR> </td> </tr></table></body>